Best, Emanuel, “Here I give an admittedly subjective short list, in random order, of useful, high level and regularly updated weblogs on the study of the Old Testament . Since the act of ritual involves unified actions between mind and body, and given the fact that when conjoined in action the spiritual dominates the physical, the spiritual aspect of the action should always be allowed due dominance? My point was mainly that while these groups may well be referred to by a majority as ‘fundamentalist’ and they display these 10 ‘problems’ we should still be cautious about how we use the word fundamentalist. p.s. I’m also happy to see even Jim giving Neil credit where credit is due. Tags: Fundamentalism, Pataki: Against Religion. Patik is challenging the whole mentality of those groups that see themselves as unique, elect or chosen, and the rest of the world as somehow lost, benighted. In an earlier post you suggested everyone thinks that way. Ron Rhodes, The Challenge of the Cults and New Religions: The Essential Guide to Their History, Their Doctrine, and Our Response (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2001), 31â34: SOCIOLOGICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF CULTS. It is the psychology (not the dogmas) of those groups that Pataki is discussing. But I have often been impressed with their grasp of logic and analysis of scholarship. Nancy Fraser – June 2019 (personal email), “I’ve even been cited by atheists with approval (which I really don’t know how to take, so thanks, I think, but I’m not sure, Vrider (even though I feel like I need to take a shower now)).”. Neil is the author of this post. My discourse community has all of the six characteristics defined by John Swales. I believe people can be convinced by reason. (I would qualify Pataki here by saying that some groups see themselves as having their superiority “imputed” to them by God and they would never let themselves think their superiority is innate in themselves.) Your objections point to this very fear — of losing distinctness of identity. , They may well be commonly referred to fundamentalist. There are many reasons for people converting to this or that religion, credulity and need for belonging not being the least of them. 2. — Earl Doherty, November 2013 (personal email). These written rules are not only seen to apply individually, but can quite often be seen reflected within a society's economic regulations and political laws. And there is zero historical evidence for Ned Ludd, and this was long after birth, baptism & criminal records started…, Appreciate the thoroughness of your reply as well as the added references. No doubt individuals can be convinced. 9. All religions have a sense that there is a right way to live and act, and if we do this, we reap some sort of spiritual benefit. African people relate to or worship God through praying, singing and dancing, making sacrificial offerings, dedications and invoking blessings. They had feasts to honour their gods 7. And what could be more narcissistic than thinking God “speaks” directly to you, that you’re “special” (aka, “Saved”), and that you’re “entitled” to proselytize and convert the whole rest of the world into thinking exactly like you?! Islam does not involve abstract ideas that are hard to believe. Personal religious experience usually revolves around existing doctrines, and is most commonly associated with the mythological and symbolic aspects of the religion. Even civic law must derive from the holy books. To read more about Neil, see our. This saying rings true between both the religion and its converts (as a general rule). you seem to be incapable of thinking that anyone thinks differently from you — to a fundamentalist everyone is a fundamentalist. He in part supports this psychological interpretation of fundamentalist movements with the fact that the same psychological symptoms (evidenced in those 10 characteristics) are found across widely divergent cultures. Since there is only one true way, it is under constant threat. The Mythological Dimension of Religion is composed of myths, symbols, and tales through which the Spiritual World is symbolized. They (fundamentalists) are “generally assertive, clamorous, and often violent”. But his analysis is still relevant, and actually corresponds to Freud’s, who thought that what he described as “excessive religiosity” (as opposed to simply a “spiritual” sense), is basically infantile Narcissism. The sixth characteristics in Islam are that there is no clergy or religious monopoly. . The 6 basic characteristics of civilization are cities, organized governments, art, religion, class divisions, and a writing system. Characteristics of God. 1. ), along with the consequent bloodshed; the militancy, threats, intimidation and sometimes violence on the part of America’s “Christian Right”. The fundamentalist, whether Christian, Judaistic or Islamic, will accept all but only into one exclusive “truth”. Ghurye, there are six main characteristics of caste system, which are briefly given below. I think that people need to be engaged with and ideas need to considered and judged. Characteristically Religious Feelings Awe, a sense of mystery, a sense of guilt, and adoration are "religious feelings" which tend to be aroused in religious believers when they come in the presence of sacred objects, in sacred places, and during the practice of sacred rituals. “Neil Godfrey and Tim Widowfield, who both write at Vridar . I’ll try to offer something more substantial than “Thank you” in response at some point, but I didn’t want to wait . I call them amateurs only for the reason that they don’t have, so far as I know, advanced degrees in the subject. It is the hope of every convert in organized religion to have contact with, and participate in, the Spiritual World through the observance of rituals. Especially the fear of and opposition to homosexuality. (Pataki does not address it here, but of course the Book of Acts was written to portray a “pre-heretical” golden age in its earliest chapters at least.). They are “the Chosen”, “the Elect”, “the Saved”. Another Pointer Towards a Late Date for the Gospel of Mark? I don’t have a problem with fundamentalists. And it is their childish demands (and even tantrums) for their own ways (competing as they are across different cultures) that poses a threat to societies aspiring to democratic and enlightenment values. They are still children psychologically. Female sexuality is associated strongly with “animalism” and pollution — giving rise to taboos on certain sexual practices. (p.32). Required fields are marked *. The Gospel of Mark’s Jesus as the New Adam, Jesus Christ Created as an Epitome of Old Testament Figures (1) — Charbonnel and Jésus-Christ, Sublime Figure de Papier, Did Jonathan Z. Smith Really Not Understand Ideal Types? This great age came to an end with the Bharata War, the beginning of which is dramatically described in the Bhagavad-gita and the result, according to the text, was over a million deaths. R â Religion: which might include priests and temples. Christians believe that God created the world and everything in it. Some of them I agree with, others I do not. Patik is not discussing their ideas and beliefs — he explains they differ in their beliefs — but nevertheless there is an array of religious movements across cultures that do demonstrate common pyscho-social characteristics — and they are making controversial impacts — so they are a phenomena worthy of study and understanding. They also have an agenda to convert all children to their religion by brainwashing them with more crap. By the way, my thanks to Neil for an ongoing superb job of exposing Jim’s review for what it is: a farcical and none too effective exercise in mythicism assassination, nothing to do with rational, let alone unbiased, scholarship. Myths are often employed in spiritual rituals. I think people can be convinced though. Segmental division of society: The caste system divides the whole society into various segments or sections. . Personal experiences not only confirm faith, they also help in personalizing God within the mind of the believer, thus allowing contact on a more personal level. 10 characteristics of religious fundamentalism. Catholicism is a remarkably rich religion, characterized by a complex tapestry of beliefs, practices, values, rituals, traditions, and more. All different. Musings on biblical studies, politics, religion, ethics, human nature, tidbits from science. This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License. Religious experience is a crucial factor within religion. But it is also surely clear I was addressing not individuals but religious movements, another matter entirely, and it goes without saying that none of these will disappear via “rational” debate. Basic Religions Not Measured Against Other World Religions on an Evolutionary Scale 1. This vain question has to be considered, hardly discussed. This post is going straight to the March 2016 Biblical Studies Carnival.”, “Neil, this is actually rather useful. The majority commonly misuse a lot of words. A. Hindus acknowledge 330 million gods and one Ultimate Reality, the Brahman, which is beyond all names and forms. If so, you are expressing part of the black and white problematic phenomenon that Patik is attempting to help us understand — at a psychological level. Good job.”, “I’d like to thank you for this very nice representation of what I was trying to show in the book. The world is thus a place of persecution. Judaism is a monotheistic faith, which means members believe in only one god. #5 above. Filed under: Religion and Atheism . Religious pluralism is a problem for the fundamentalist. The life of constantine â Eusebius Pamphilius. The more I read your stuff (and I still do, of course), the more I realize how much we all owe you. Hindu civilization then descended into a long decline that was exacerbated by the pacifism and nihilism of Buddhism and Jainism, which were seen as failed off shoots of Hinduism and not separate religions from Hinduism. (A cell phone photo won’t do for the…, I will see if I can get a scan to you Neil. . . And you’d be right. Fundamentalism and nationalism converge. And such is to be considered a good thing, a completely natural occurrence. i am disturbed that you seem quite willing to admit that you have no problem with people who display all of the above 10 characteristics, and that your only apparent concern is that they display those 10 qualities in respect to the “correct beliefs”. As an Atheist and gay male, I cannot believe the lies and crap that millions of bible believers are taught in sunday school and in church. CHAPTER ONE: CHARACTERISTICS OF BASIC RELIGIONS Chapter Outline and Unit Summaries I. . Fantastic. I would suggest Patik’s view/system might be just as black and white as the one he is investigating though. Organized religions are usually governed by ethical codes for good conduct. In addition to the elements already mentioned, organized religion depends greatly upon the inner fears of its converts. Patik discusses the changes in usage and application of the word ‘fundamentalist’ in the last few decades. . 3. The six most important characteristics of a civilization are cities, government, religion, social structure, writing, and arts and architecture. It is due to such assumed knowledge that the religion's priesthood maintains positions of honor and influence within the community. Religion is the most powerful source of influence in the world. Introduction: Questioning the Evolutionary Paradigm A. The fewer the features demonstrated, the less likely it will be termed a religion. A place where there is a black and white, a Manichaean struggle between absolutes, good and evil, truth and error, God and Satan. Universalizing religions: Attribute creation of universe to a supreme being/god. “To be chosen is to be marked for a superior fate; one is marked by virtue of being superior“. Not only for the purpose of maintaining that distinctive identity, but also as “part of the narcissistic struggle to be considered unique and special.” (p.30), Skullcaps, turbans, hijab, crosses, skin markings, circumcision, initiations, baptisms, rituals, food taboos, holy times, etc etc. He refers to the common contemporary use of the word “fundamentalist” as used commonly by people and in the media. There is no middle ground. Six of the most important characteristics are: cities, government, religion, social structure, writing and art. At times, it is nearly impossible to distinguish where one leaves off and the other begins. Please carry on.”, Thanks much for this book review. During the Second Millennium CE a weakened Hindusim was easy prey for first the Mughal invaders and second British imperialism. . You’re familiar with the usual suspects. Their ancestors came to America to preserve their 17th century religious prejudices and today’s descendants have remained isolated as the rest of the world has long since moved on. Myth is not the conventional definition we think of rather a much deeper concept. The first concept of religion is sacred, which is the idea that religion binds individuals and communities together. Filed under: Religion and Atheism Tags: Fundamentalism, Pataki: Against Religion A civilization is a complex culture in which large numbers of human beings share a number of common elements. They (fundamentalists) are counter-modernist. The moral life according to the will of God can only be fully lived in a society of fellow-practitioners of the belief. Characteristics of African religion A Supreme being: Throughout most of Africa there is belief of a supreme being, described by one or more names, either in terms of activities or place of abode. There is only one true religion and one correct way of life; and these must be defended against inroads from other religions and secularism. Neither do rituals need be a long and drawn out affair. (That is a pointless task that can never succeed. 4. According to G.S. Women are subordinated in marriage, reproduction, abortion, ordination, access to or emphasis on education. As I was typing I was aware of this problem. It (fundamentalism) manifests itself as an attempt by “besieged believers” to find their refuge in arming themselves with an identity that is rooted in a past golden age. They have the “elect”,”chosen” and “unique” and he has his “enlightened”, “reasonable” and “tolerant”. Religion can be defined with six characteristics: Sacred, myth, ritual, community, morality, and religious leaders. to express appreciation for your detailed interaction with what I’ve written!”, “These reviews of yours are so bloody weird!”, “Very good. The classification of religions involves: (1) the effort to establish groupings among historical religious communities having certain elements in common or (2) the attempt to categorize similar religious phenomena to reveal the structure of religious experience as a whole.. Function and significance. British football fans, inner-city gangs and others could fit a lot of the above characteristics. happen to be some of the most astute and well-read amateurs you can read on the internet on the subject of biblical historicity. I refer to your site frequently as yet more names and publications pop up requiring an academic critique and helpful recommendations for book purchases. Public marks of distinction are needed to maintain their sense of superiority and distinctive identity. They find this information in the first book of the Old Testament, Genesis, which states: Scary. And as such, they are “privileged” or “burdened” with a special mission on behalf of their deity and for the benefit of the world. There are intelligent, thoughtful comments and commenters regularly offering productive discussion. To suggest that “tolerance” and “reasonable” and “enlightenment” (ie understanding) are “black and white” views of the world, or in any sense the equivalent of “elect”, “chosen” or “unique” is simply nonsense and a facile perversion of what is meant by “black and white” etc. To him, charismatic leaders are said to possess superior debating and persuasive skills and technical expertise, to foster attitudinal, behavioral and emotional changes in their followers. (Part 2). Most of the religion's rules for good brotherhood are written within religious doctrine or constitution. Ritual is the way in which religion expresses itself: worship services, prayers, etc. In India they established the Hindu Golden Age described in the Ramayana and the Mahabharata. 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